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andres
07-03-16, 19:44
ciao a tutti.
sto restautando la mia vespa 50 l 1967.
ho un grosso problema.
Ho rifatto il telaio(sabbiato, pedane rifatte..)a nuovo.
Il primo colore(sotto altri che ho trovato nel sverniciarla) è stato un azurrino metallizzato e non sapendo il codice max mayer ho chiesto alla casa piaggio il codice colore originale da fare.
La risposta tra le alternative è stata AZZURRO CHIARO METALLIZATO N110 e sicuro fosse questo, ho dato il via libera al carrozziere.
Il punto è che ritirato il mio vespino, mi sono accorto che il colore è grigio metaLlizzato, con una certa sfumatura lontana all'azzurrino.
ma non è uguale al colore originale prima del restauro.
Indagando ho scoperto che il colore oroginale è AZZURRO METALLIZATO N114
e non AZZURRO METALLIZATO CHIARO N110 come la piaggio mi ha indicato!!!!!! piaggio del caz!!!
Dal numero di telaio v5a1t 500.001 al540.000 e stata prodotta con l'AZZURRO METALLIZZATO N114
mentre dal v5a1t 540.001 in poi con l'AZZURRO CHIARO METALLIZZATO N110.

La mia essendo una delle prime dovrebbe essere azzurro metallizzato!!!!

chiedo ci saranno problemi con l'iscrizione al registro storico FMI???
altrimenti non la monto e la rimando in carrozzeria!
vorrei piangere :cry:
grazie a chi mi sa aiutare
lucag63
07-03-16, 19:53
ciao a tutti.
sto restautando la mia vespa 50 l 1967.
ho un grosso problema.
Ho rifatto il telaio(sabbiato, pedane rifatte..)a nuovo.
Il primo colore(sotto altri che ho trovato nel sverniciarla) è stato un azurrino metallizzato e non sapendo il codice max mayer ho chiesto alla casa piaggio il codice colore originale da fare.
La risposta tra le alternative è stata AZZURRO CHIARO METALLIZATO N110 e sicuro fosse questo, ho dato il via libera al carrozziere.
Il punto è che ritirato il mio vespino, mi sono accorto che il colore è grigio metaLlizzato, con una certa sfumatura lontana all'azzurrino.
ma non è uguale al colore originale prima del restauro.
Indagando ho scoperto che il colore oroginale è AZZURRO METALLIZATO N114
e non AZZURRO METALLIZATO CHIARO N110 come la piaggio mi ha indicato!!!!!! piaggio del caz!!!
Dal numero di telaio v5a1t 500.001 al540.000 e stata prodotta con l'AZZURRO METALLIZZATO N114
mentre dal v5a1t 540.001 in poi con l'AZZURRO CHIARO METALLIZZATO N110.

La mia essendo una delle prime dovrebbe essere azzurro metallizzato!!!!

chiedo ci saranno problemi con l'iscrizione al registro storico FMI???
altrimenti non la monto e la rimando in carrozzeria!
vorrei piangere :cry:
grazie a chi mi sa aiutare
Guarda che dovrebbe essere quello..e come dici tu sembra quasi grigio.. Guarda su google.
andres
07-03-16, 19:57
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cosi dovrebbe essere
Non si vede niente..
andres
07-03-16, 20:02
si tende al grigio , ho gia controllato su colore amico.
...il punto è che dovrebbe essere l altro azzurro(AZZURRO METALLIZZATO N114)..
lucag63
07-03-16, 20:04
si tende al grigio , ho gia controllato su colore amico.
...il punto è che dovrebbe essere l altro azzurro(AZZURRO METALLIZZATO N114)..
Hai guardato con il numero di telaio?
andres
07-03-16, 20:06
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andres
07-03-16, 20:07
È così!!!

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lucag63
07-03-16, 20:07
Se di telaio è più di 540000 è giusto il 110..
andres
07-03-16, 20:07
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andres
07-03-16, 20:08
Ma dovrebbe essere come questo

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Psycovespa77
07-03-16, 20:09
La mia con telaio 5200xx del luglio 67 era di questo colore http://www.vespaforever.net/Public/data/liviogiv/20128615410_Immagine%20001.JPG sotto vari strati di vernice.
andres
07-03-16, 20:10
No è più basso.. v5a1t 507..

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lucag63
07-03-16, 20:12
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Questo non mi sembra il 110. Sembra di più il 114.
andres
07-03-16, 20:16
La mia con telaio 5200xx del luglio 67 era di questo colore http://www.vespaforever.net/Public/data/liviogiv/20128615410_Immagine%20001.JPG sotto vari strati di vernice.

esatto pure il mio era così!

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Questo non mi sembra il 110. Sembra di più il 114.


esatto questo è il 114

il 110 è grigio!
lucag63
07-03-16, 20:17
esatto pure il mio era così!
Che numero di telaio? Più o meno di 540001
andres
07-03-16, 20:20
Che numero di telaio? Più o meno di 540001
è basso 507...

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il problema è che magari non me lo passano FMI per questo
bello che ho contattato la Piaggio addirittura!!! ho ancora l'email e bello che mi son fidATO
lucag63
07-03-16, 20:27
è basso 507...

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il problema è che magari non me lo passano FMI per questo
bello che ho contattato la Piaggio addirittura!!! ho ancora l'email e bello che mi son fidATO
Allora hai ragione.. È il 114 il tuo..azz!!![emoji33]
Vespa979
07-03-16, 20:43
La tua deve essere verniciata con il PIA114 e non con il PIA110. Quindi, l'errore è stato della piaggio...vatti a fidare.:doh::crazy:
Che poi l'azzurro 110 attuale non ci azzecchi una mazza con quello originale dell'epoca è un altro conto, purtroppo.
andres
07-03-16, 20:57
Sta di fatto che ho sborsato 1000euriiiiiiiiii
per aver verniciato il vespa non del colore esatto^^^
lucag63
07-03-16, 20:59
Sta di fatto che ho sborsato 1000euriiiiiiiiii
per aver verniciato il vespa non del colore esatto^^^
Sti cavoli!!!
andres
07-03-16, 21:06
Quindi mi tocca riverniciarlo sborsando altri 300/400€!!
Che dite la Fmi farà storie?

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lucag63
07-03-16, 21:43
Quindi mi tocca riverniciarlo sborsando altri 300/400€!!
Che dite la Fmi farà storie?

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Secondo me si..se abbinano il numero di telaio al colore si...
sartana1969
08-03-16, 09:04
Secondo me si..se abbinano il numero di telaio al colore si...

Ma lui ha la mail della Piaggio dove la Piaggio asserisce che il colore è quello.
Se nella mail che tu hai inviato loro ci sono anche, come immagino, serie e numero telaio per me l'FMI non fa storie.
Se invece hai indicato solo l'anno della tua vespa e nell'anno c'è la variazione di colore, in base al numero di telaio, forse le storie te le fanno.

Sentire con FMI prima di fare il tutto???
andres
08-03-16, 09:34
Si alla piaggio ho girato i numeri telaio ovviamente, ma all Fmi non credo interessi!

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lucag63
08-03-16, 09:43
Ma lui ha la mail della Piaggio dove la Piaggio asserisce che il colore è quello.
Se nella mail che tu hai inviato loro ci sono anche, come immagino, serie e numero telaio per me l'FMI non fa storie.
Se invece hai indicato solo l'anno della tua vespa e nell'anno c'è la variazione di colore, in base al numero di telaio, forse le storie te le fanno.

Sentire con FMI prima di fare il tutto???
Secondo me la FMI si basa sulle tabelle che ho guardato pure io per far verniciare la mia.. Però non capisco come la Piaggio possa dare queste informazioni sbagliate...oppure...sono sbagliate le tabelle che girano su Internet?????mahhh!
sartana1969
08-03-16, 09:50
Si alla piaggio ho girato i numeri telaio ovviamente, ma all Fmi non credo interessi!

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Beh io ci proverei....
lucag63
08-03-16, 09:55
Beh io ci proverei....
Infatti..al limite ti dicono di no...
humabel82
08-03-16, 10:10
Mah..mi par di capire che all interessato interessa il 114 e non il 110..la questione è il doverla pagare 2 volte..non il 110.
La piaggio di oggi ne sa meno di noi.
Infatti ogni anno/2 è la gente come noi che gli da le dritte dei colori che, per loro stessa ammissione, non vedono nei loro database.
Ancora oggi il mio rally canyon ( conservato ) me lo danno rosso lacca o corsa..
Pensa se fossi anch io alle prime armi e volessi per qualche motivo restaurarla perche non mi piacciono i conservati. ..la farei in un colore non suo stando alle loro info!!!
Così come per il primavera conservato che ho preso dell 82 blu 5/4...inesistente se non (da 2 anni credo..) con l arrivo del colore azzurro 5/2..
Prima era solo biancospino
andres
08-03-16, 11:01
Il colore sotto vecchio era il 114.
Dalla piaggio mi hanno detto sia il 110 è così l'ho fatto..ma stando alle tabelle su Internet e al colore vecchio, la piaggio ha forato!!
Ma cioè, più che chiedere a loro..

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andres
08-03-16, 11:02
Ho fatto il 110 inconsapevole, credendo fosse il 114

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andres
08-03-16, 22:42
Ho scritto e-mail minatoria alla piaggio(vedremo)
A un esaminatore FMI a Roma per sapere se passa ugualmente.
Vi tengo informati.
Grazie del supporto

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Psycovespa77
09-03-16, 07:27
Speriamo che vada bene anche cosi,sarebbero soldi risparmiati.
sartana1969
09-03-16, 14:50
Ho scritto e-mail minatoria alla piaggio(vedremo)
A un esaminatore FMI a Roma per sapere se passa ugualmente.
Vi tengo informati.
Grazie del supporto

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io sono ottimista per natura....
Psycovespa77
09-03-16, 18:22
Anche il tuo quasi conterraneo era sempre ottimista https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dr4JrOPc8E ma alla fine...i piccioni lo hanno riportato alla realtà.
andres
10-03-16, 09:12
Un esaminatore fmi dice di allegare la fotocopia email della Piaggio.
Sicuramente non è il si o colore dice...ma con il benestare della Piaggio, non DOVREBBERE esserci problemi...speriamo bene

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humabel82
10-03-16, 10:00
Scusa la domanda, ma te la preferivi 114?
andres
11-03-16, 12:11
Preferisco quasi questo, ci ho fatto l'occhio!
Certo, me lo aspettavo del colore originario


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andres
27-04-16, 19:19
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andres
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